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Post by Eastwood on Feb 26, 2009 17:40:42 GMT -6
We've GOT to do something w/those teepads! Pls. make it a topic at the next meeting, and thanks!
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Post by ZF on Apr 30, 2009 19:29:32 GMT -6
The new tee pads suck! If you can stay on the rubber balance beams without slipping you might be able to hit a fairway or two, but thats a big "IF". IMO the gravel under it with all the traffic it will be just like concrete without getting P and R's panties in a bunch cause it cant be considered permanent. Just wondering if you could've surveyed the club to see what everyone thought of them b4 getting approval from P and R? I havent heard any real good reviews except people that were involved with the decision. They aren't even the size of the original teepads anymore!
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Post by jb on Apr 30, 2009 20:33:47 GMT -6
I agree, they are as good as hunt is at TD'ing. They are dangerous at best. The only good thing about them is you can still tee off beside them. great effort, bad material. Maybe grooves in the rubber? or adhesive with crushed rock over it. I know everyone wants tee pads, but we might as well wear ice skates to tee off. Even dry I slipped on them. I need my knees guys.
How bout D-rocks ace, wheres the money? The LDGA needs to get it together. You hit an ace you get paid. Good thing it wasn't someone from out of state. Hunt your presidincy sucks, I say dismantle the LDGA, give the Lancaster Sports and Recreation Club all your funds and I'll run the show. Only a suggestion.
Come on guys, is it that hard?You got the puppet master pulling the strings, a treasurer not disclosing funds, a td that wont get out of his car to run the show, aces not getting paid, and tee pads that are gonna hurt people. Take some pride in what you do, if not there really isn't any reason to half a55 it. Thank you. and remember its about the people, not you. give back and take pride in our community
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Post by baf on May 1, 2009 6:14:26 GMT -6
I agree. They suck. I was told they were put in on 1 and 11 as a trial. Honestly, I have only heard of a couple people that like them. I thought a trial period was to evaluate how well they worked and how everyone liked them before installing them on every hole in the park. In the open they are not a big deal because you can throw off to the side, but in the woods there are not many options as the only good lanes on most of the pads are taken by the rubbers. Not to mention last year when the concrete was being talked about, a 4x10 pad was deemed too small. Now a 4x8-10 slick rubber mat is ideal? Brilliant.
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Post by ZF on May 2, 2009 21:42:22 GMT -6
Obviously it is like every other thing with the LDGA, it doesnt matter what anyone except for a few people think about the slip and slides! The only thing the rubber balance beams are good for is to keep the teepads dry, but now they're getting pinned down. Hope the board or whoever wanted them enjoy the teepads getting wider instead of longer cause if possible I am throwing from the side or behind them. I just wish there was a way to get my club dues back, cause if I knew they were going towards something like this I would've saved my money, but go figure there wont be any feed back unless you got time to go to a bogus a** meeting, because everybody has time for that!!!
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Post by jb on May 3, 2009 20:07:47 GMT -6
It's obvious they don't care, otherwise we woulda got a response by now. I honestly think they did an excellent job, they just used the wrong material. There is rubber material made for disc golf tee pads. I also heard that it is also slippery (when wet). The contract between the land owner and the city states( no perminant fixtures), therefore concrete has never been an option. The club has the funds to do "real" rubber pads or something else like a fix. maybe slits in the rubber or apply some sort of adhesive and put small gravel or crushed rock on it. I have a feeling what we have now will get ripped out soon enough. www.innovadiscs.com/coursedesign/course8.htmwww.innovadiscs.com/coursedesign/course12.htm
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Post by lbiter on May 4, 2009 5:13:33 GMT -6
Alright guys, that's enough. If you are members of the LDGA, then why don't you organize a team of people to come out and fix the tee pads. It isn't just the responsibility of the five board members to keep on top of all the coursework. Oh, and ZF, two things: First, the tee pads on 1 and 11 were paid for by Chuck Custer, not your club dues. Second, if you're that busy that you can't attend a two hour meeting one night a month, then I don't know how you have time to make it out to play disc golf. If you don't like the way things are, take some initiative, attend the meetings, and stop your pregnant doging!
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Post by jb on May 4, 2009 7:58:20 GMT -6
Meooow, sending in a girl to take care of your dirty work, typical.
I know it sucks getting bad reviews after putting in a great effort but opinions matter, good or bad your gonna have to listen. The 5 man board is ultimatly responsible for all decisions whether we come to meetings or not. It's you 5 that are making these decisions and can always say no to bad ones. So don't turn it on us. I've been to ldga meetings and they are something fierce. Unless they have changed from what I remember, it's a total waste of time. 2 hours that will never be given back to me. The tee pads suck ba11s and were letting you know. Thanks for the response liddea....
As for custer paying for the pads, good. i'd hate to see the publics money go to waste. I'm sure he will be refunded by the club just as he did by the city for installing baskets with his own money. Rub it in......
I'd like to hear from someone that likes the teepads. All thats on here is negitive. So come on, lets here someone say they like them and why they like them.
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Post by baf on May 4, 2009 8:13:52 GMT -6
Alright guys, that's enough. If you are members of the LDGA, then why don't you organize a team of people to come out and fix the tee pads. It isn't just the responsibility of the five board members to keep on top of all the coursework. Oh, and ZF, two things: First, the tee pads on 1 and 11 were paid for by Chuck Custer, not your club dues. Second, if you're that busy that you can't attend a two hour meeting one night a month, then I don't know how you have time to make it out to play disc golf. If you don't like the way things are, take some initiative, attend the meetings, and stop your pregnant doging! My sincerest apologies. I didn't realize this was a forum to praise all things LDGA. I was under the impression that when a thread was posted, we were free to respond with our opinion. As far as getting a group together to do them right, I would have no problem with that, and could get plenty of people to help if the club was paying for the materials and there was somebody there to open the gate. However, there are a select few with access to both and it seems if something is not their idea, they are not open to it. The pads could have been done for less than the cost of the rubber alone and they would have provided stable footing regardless of what shoes you wear or what the weather conditions are.
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Post by jb on May 4, 2009 8:16:55 GMT -6
True that, if its not a custer original its sh1t.... Dance puppets...
By the way liddea, look at the purpose sheet for the ldga. To keep up with the course and course improvement is listed on there, so it is the LDGA's responsibility to take the publics money and put it to good use. If Custer is buying the material then where is the publics money and what is the LDGA using it for? Other than lining pockets, just a rummer.....but thats what i heard. The fund was started to do course work, not for custer to buy stuff and for u to rubb it in our faces that he paid for it himself. So what you are saying is that people shouldn't join your club because you don't need our money to do course improvements because Custer is gonna pay for it? Let me know whats up, I'm confused. Why give, if you aren't using our money?
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Post by ZF on May 4, 2009 13:13:37 GMT -6
Alright guys, that's enough. If you are members of the LDGA, then why don't you organize a team of people to come out and fix the tee pads. It isn't just the responsibility of the five board members to keep on top of all the coursework. Oh, and ZF, two things: First, the tee pads on 1 and 11 were paid for by Chuck Custer, not your club dues. Second, if you're that busy that you can't attend a two hour meeting one night a month, then I don't know how you have time to make it out to play disc golf. If you don't like the way things are, take some initiative, attend the meetings, and stop your pregnant doging! Thats great Chuck paid for 1 and 11! So where did the other 16 come from if not mine and other peoples dues? Why wont they have a discussion b4 or after tourney, Sunday has plenty of time surrounding it instead of having to go to these awesome meetings where obviously everybody goes and gets all this accomplished. As for playing I usually only get out for the tourneys (if that) and if I go any other time it is with my 2 boys, I shouldnt have to go to a meeting obviously the board or whoever you are read this forum sooooo. I also forgot everybody has access to the funds so I should just withdraw with my card and open the gate with my keys and Ill get right on top of that! Who else besides the board members has access to these things because I forgot my password?! Im also a bit slow so could you define "pregnant doging" for me, or do I have to go to a meeting for that too?
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Post by heymatt on May 4, 2009 14:39:23 GMT -6
If the problem is the surface of the rubber, that should be an easy repair. There is a product that adheres to rubber (Chemlok), also I would guess that regular roof tar would work.
The platform that is made by the rubber is an excellent platform, and it is long lasting. It will outlast any concrete pad, it will outlast any player. All these pads need is just a bit of tweaking and it should be a sturdy all weather surface.
There are many means of roughing the surface. Belt sanding might do the job, if the sanding belt is coarse enough(20-40 grit). Heat and a pattern stamp might be cool. Heat a hot iron and lay it on the belting. The iron could be made into a simple repeating pattern. The iron could be heated on a BBQ grill ( I suppose the grill itself would be a great stamping device. A simple quick fix would be to drop a bag of sand at each tee for while, till the solution is found. Players could throw a handful of sand on the rubber for grip. This might be important in the winter and wet months regardless of surface treatments.
One thing that I like about the tee-pads is that fact that football cleats slide on the rubber surface. It is my hope that people will stop wearing cleats of any kind on the course. We are suffering from soil compaction and soil erosion problems especially in the woods holes (2-3-4-5-13). We are losing the understory plants. Nothing is growing on or near the paths.
These solid tees will help the entire course, because players won't need to wear the heavy shoes, that tear and compact the ground. We must work to preserve the course, our damage to these woods will not go unnoticed.
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Post by jeffreybrock on May 4, 2009 15:02:29 GMT -6
I don't mind the teepads too much, unless when it's wet. When they are dry it does not really bother me because I only have a one two step throw. I can say on teh otherhand I have seen people with big run ups, that have busted their ASS When they are wet. I just step to the side of the matt. Because I always slip. My opinion is that as long as we are aloud to play to the side of them without getting stroked then it's all good. But I do Agree with Zac that as a memeber we have the right to post our opinions and most of the time noone really cares what we think unless its one of the 5 bored members. But as for Me and also what Zac said I do think the meetings should start being held after a sunday scramble "AT THE COURSE" instead of at a Pizza/Bar Joint! People will allready be there that have a normal sunday off instead of having to try and get off work or away from there families throughout the middle of the week.
So as a member "I am" this is my opinion.. Lets see this work!
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Post by jeffreybrock on May 4, 2009 16:50:09 GMT -6
Jeffrey Brock~OBOMA~ lol ;D
......IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE......
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Post by Eastwood on May 4, 2009 17:15:50 GMT -6
Brock, are you drunk posting again? ;D
Thanks for that CD, I was rockin' w/dat on the way home 2 day...and nice work down south over the weekend.
Tee pads are better than they were when they were muddy....and w/the limitations at the nature preserve, one of the better, low maintenance ways to go. I don't like'em when they're wet tho, Matt's suggestions should be considered....and Brock, as long as the 2x4/1x1 posts are still in the ground, the rest of the teepad should still be fair game. Kudo's to all who actually worked and did something.
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