Wednesday Doubles $5?

[Hunt]

With the extra $2 we could set aside $1 for course and the other $1 would go into payout so..........

$3----> Payout
$1----> Ace Fund*
$1----> Course Maintenance**

*Ace Fund is capped at 3 X $150 ($450)

**LDGA already has money set aside to work on the tee pads once the weather is right

[jeffreybrock]

I say $5.00 is a good idea but i also think we should have a choice if we wanna get in the ACE fund or not

[Hunt]

Thats a good point....
But if your partner gets an Ace and you are not in the Ace Fund you would have to forfeit your half of the $150

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[jeffreybrock]

Hey if you dont pay then you dont get paid... Its your choice

[grant]

when its partners u should decide before the round starts if ur in and want to split...if no split then u get it all

[heymatt]

At Flatrocks during Wednesday/ Sunday doubles the Ace fund is not optional. This is because the accounting process for the TD is tough enough. Pay the buck, and assure the field that someone will run the event. If you try to opt out of the Ace fund, you will drive away the person who is trying his d**ndest to figure out simple things like: how many people are playing, and what hole they are on. I cannot image the uproar if someone hits and ace an claims that they paid into the fund, and no one knows for sure. After the Ace funds are full it gets worse for the TD, because the TD runs a 50/50 draw where half of the money goes to the club and half to the winner of the draw. The complications for the person running the event are exponentially increased if six or seven people don't pay for the Ace fund.

On the other point... At Flatrocks the partners must share the Ace fund winnings. This point has been discussed and cussed many times on these boards, unfortunately the boards were wiped clean and these discussions have been lost to ravages of electrons.

The idea of the Wednesday and Sunday doubles is to encourage people to play disc golf, to teach players course etiquette, and have a set time to meet others that play this game.



Additionally, I think $3 is the right amount to pay for doubles.

Course maintenance should be paid for by the city. They had a huge levy for the parks passed a couple years ago, but we aren't asking for our share, they have been spending it on bike paths. We have to get our voice into that decision making process. I don't think the city understands how many people play disc golf in Lancaster, and how great our need is. $50 per week from the doubles is not going to get the jobs done that we need done to the course.

[jeffreybrock]

i did hear Hunt say awhile back about maby donating a CTP then having people that want to be part of it throw in a extra dollar then every week have another CTP and as the weeks pass the money will build higher.. then that extra money we could use toward course work, pizza party, or maby even help buy Baskets so we can start another course here in town somewhere...

If this is somthing anyone wants to do then ill Donate the fist week or 2 or prizes for CTP?

[ZF]

I agree that $5 is a good idea and you should be able to choose if you want in the ace fund. If you don't wish to enter you shouldn't get the benefit of winning! I know my brother's partner hit an ace last year, the ace fund "wasn't present" so we left then it appeared and the person didn't share it with him and he had paid! All you would really have to do is make an ace fund list for the evening and it would show who is eligible for the raffle also (when and if there is one). I also would love to see the money saved up over the years used for something (course improvements, more ctp's or prizes, parties, etc.). From what I understand the bigger tourneys (prizes, trophies,ctp's) are all paid for out of the entry fees or donated by other people then the rest is put into the club fund. I also thought the park was technically a nature preserve and the only thing the park services are willing to do is empty the trash cans and mow. Isn't this why we're not allowed to put the permanent tee pads due to it being considered a preserve and not a park? Every park in and around lancaster have permanent structures except Keller- Kern!
on a lighter note---Lets get ready to throw some space age polymers!! !! CANT WAIT!!!

[Hunt]

OK OK!
I like the feedback we are getting here. Jeff it was not a club decision to post this poll on here I DID. I was just looking to get some opinions from everyone and it is doing so.
I just noticed a while back that a lot of people thought that the doubles were going up to $5 and with those assumptions I wanted to see where everyone stood on the issue.
Dont forget to vote!

[jb]

I say no

[joshhatfield]

as an LDGA member ....i say no to the increase ( if it's going to course maintenance), club dues should cover this.....now it's another story if it goes back to the payout or a ctp or something...

ace fund should be mandatory...because it's mandatory to split it at flatrocks...

if theres $4000....let's build a new course.... ;D


by the way.....course improvement fund in chillicothe will be capped like an ace fund. we have no club, so i'd prefer not to manage and be responsible for a bunch of money.

[Hunt]

Yeah Josh I agree with ya and maybe throwing in $1 to course maintenance was a bad choice to put money towards since the club already has the money set aside for it...

As I said before this was just and "IDEA" post to get feed back and see if things were good with the doubles(other then the obvious success of the turnouts that continue to happen)

Keep the stuff a coming!

[joshhatfield]

i don't know ...maybe if it was for a specific project or something

you could voluntarily pay an extra dollar i suppose, as long as eveyone knows exactly to what it will be spent on.

[Eastwood]

I say keep it at 3. Although that hasn't gone up since dubs was started in '05, it's tough out there right now. Just ran it last week (BTW, go $10 to give to the treasury) and got silver from at least one playa. I think I even saw remnants of pink, piggy-like ceramic on his fingers, and I know for a fact the guy has three little kids. I bought'em piggy banks last christmas! ;D

But anyhow, the dubs were kinda started w/a mission of encouraging all to come out (The course founders knew it was a new town to disc golf, and that it might catch on in a few years as word spread), with low prices (cheapest around, I can't name a cheaper dubs I've EVER been to), seeding to make sure the top dogs don't get paired up, and a limited ace fund, to keep cherry pickers away which helps level the field out a bit. And mando splitting of the ace fund between partners if it's hit.

Since the town is now well exposed to the sport, it might've had the largest turnout of any disc golf dubs I've been to (w/at least 72 folks during the height of the season last year), the mission could change. But I'm still thinking 3 bucks is fine....

[Eastwood]

Mar 10, 2009 12:51:34 GMT -6 ZF said:

.......I also thought the park was technically a nature preserve and the only thing the park services are willing to do is empty the trash cans and mow. Isn't this why we're not allowed to put the permanent tee pads due to it being considered a preserve and not a park? Every park in and around lancaster have permanent structures except Keller- Kern!
on a lighter note---Lets get ready to throw some space age polymers!! !! CANT WAIT!!!

They patrol it, maintain the parking lot, they'll get rid of trees-they do a lot, mowing it is huge..., but it is a nature preserve (there's no water or wastewater infrastructure, no shelter-although I've heard there are plans for one sometime in the future near the trees on the left of #1 tee), it's not a park....and I think it's in the deed that there's no a "hard surfaces allowed" clause (asphalt, concrete, etc...) I believe the club has a copy of the deed....I've played on rubber mats (in wooded areas they work well) on other courses, they would pass the "hard surface test" I think....